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Hall of Shame
Posted by DJ Flav at 2007-12-14 09:02:32
Two august bodies, the Baseball Hall of Fame and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, have announced new inductees into their ranks in recent weeks. I have been to both halls, in Cooperstown, NY, and Cleveland, OH, respectively, and really enjoyed myself each time. But there's no question which one is a greater institution.

Let's compare the numbers. The Baseball Hall of Fame opened its doors in 1939, and has been inducting members since 1936. As of today, 285 individuals have been elected into the Hall. This includes players, managers, umpires, executives, and other pioneers. Some of these men were involved with baseball as early as the 1860s and 1870s. There are of course disputes about who should and shouldn't be there, but baseball's greatest honor has retained its prestige by severely restricting the number who receive it.

Compare that with the Rock Hall, which inducted its first class in 1986, 50 years after the Baseball Hall. By my count, there are now 234 Rock inductees (you can see the list yourself to verify). This is counting groups with multiple members as one inductee, so the actual numbers of individuals enshrined there is much higher. All this for a musical genre that started a little over fifty years ago! The latest crop includes such gems as the Dave Clark Five and the Ventures, marginal acts at best. If the Cleveland Hall wants to be something more than one more way for baby boomers to relive the past through their favorite songs from decades ago, it should restrict its membership to those who truly deserve it.

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The Goose Flies North (to Cooperstown)
Posted by DJ Flav at 2008-01-08 20:51:07
I'll leave any commentary on the New Hampshire primary to my fellow 2loggers, but I did want to throw in my 28 about another election whose results were announced today. The Baseball Writers' Association of America today chose Goose Gossage as the only new player to join the Hall of Fame.

As I've commented before, I admire the Baseball Hall of Fame because it is so selective when it comes to new inductees. It was interesting this year to see who didn't make it. I borrowed this chart from MLB.com:
PlayerTotal VotesPercentage
Rich Gossage46685.8%
Jim Rice39272.2%
Andre Dawson35865.9%
Bert Blyleven33661.9%
Lee Smith23543.3%
Jack Morris23342.9%
Tommy John15829.1%
Tim Raines13224.3%
Mark McGwire12823.6%
Alan Trammell9918.2%
Dave Concepcion8816.2%
Don Mattingly8615.8%
Dave Parker8215.1%
Dale Murphy7513.8%
Harold Baines285.2%
Rod Beck20.4%
Travis Fryman20.4%
Robb Nen20.4%
Shawon Dunston10.2%
Chuck Finley10.2%
David Justice10.2%
Chuck Knoblauch10.2%
Todd Stottlemyre10.2%
Jose Rijo00%
Brady Anderson00%


Jim Rice, Andre Dawson, and probably Bert Blyleven stand a good chance of being inducted in the next few years (they would need to be selected on 75% of ballots). But further down the list, the hopes have to be much slimmer. Growing up, I regarded many of these players as "future Hall-of-Famers": Don Mattingly, David Justice, and Dale Murphy, not to mention Mark McGwire. These are not exactly the Dave Clark Fives and the Ventures of the baseball world.

The first article I linked to has an interesting discussion of the way the role of relief pitchers has changed in recent years. Goose Gossage, as a closer, pitched many more innings than just about anyone in his role does today, because bullpens have gotten so specialized. At the end of the Phillies' run last season, manager Charlie Manuel had perfected a late-inning pitching strategy: J.C. Romero in the 7th, Tom Gordon in the 8th, and Brett Myers in the 9th. The three of these guys together did the same job that Gossage did during his career: take the game from the starting pitcher up to the end of the game. Lee Smith, who was named on just 43.3% of ballots, was the premier closer of his day, and held the all-time saves record until Trevor Hoffman broke it a couple years ago. Does Smith deserve to be in the Hall? Just as for McGwire, I don't think the choice is clear, but for different reasons. McGwire is suspected of using steroids, ergo cheating; without those suspicions, his career statistics surely merit him a place in Cooperstown. Smith's fault is that he was the best at a position that hadn't fully evolved yet.

Slide, Charlie, slide!
Among players who may deserve to be in the Hall, there's of course another name that's not even on the ballot. I believe Pete Rose (and Shoeless Joe Jackson, for that matter) should be inducted. Pete Rose played baseball the way I think it should be played--hustle, blood and guts, creating plays through sheer effort where they had no right to be. As a manager, though, he bet on games that his team was playing, and for this he was banned from baseball for life. I am no expert, but can't compulsive gambling be considered a mental illness? If so, I think this sort of ethical transgression is different from the one McGwire is suspected of committing; whereas Rose was arguably not fully in control of his actions, (*allegedly) McGwire deliberately sought an unfair advantage through steroids. Besides which, Rose only bet for the Reds, never against them.

Does Pete Rose belong in Cooperstown, or do I belong in the Cooper State Mental Institution?

YOU DECIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wolfman

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In Case You Hadn't Realized
Posted by DJ Flav at 2008-01-25 20:42:17
Today is Gerrit's birthday. I won't say how old he is, but he's getting up there. In honor of his birthday, here is the photo that will grace numerous fast food chain walls in 80 years or so.


Gerrit M. Hall, how we loved thee.
Poisoned by a vengeful robo-cleaner before his time.

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